September 23, 2013, 5:21 PM Cruz Sets Confrontational Tone as Senate Debate Begins
The Senate plunged into debate over legislation to fund the government while cutting of money for the new health-care law, with both sides accusing the other of threatening to bring about a government shutdown.
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D., Nev.) opened debate by denouncing the bill passed by the House Friday that embodies conservatives’ campaign to “defund Obamacare,” as the health law is known.
“Inside the House Republican bubble, the crowd cheered a plan to deny health insurance to tens of millions of Americans or else shut down the government,’’ Mr. Reid said at the outset of a debate that is expected to stretch into next weekend before any significant votes are taken. ‘President Obama has been clear. I have been clear. Any bill that defunds Obamacare is dead on arrival in the Senate.’’
Quote: Sanguine wrote in post #2If all of Cruz' Republican detractors had a plan then they might have some credibility on the issue.
Personally I think the detractors have a plan. Keep their power in any way that they can, and if that happens to screw the American people, who cares? That's pretty obvious now.
Quote: Sanguine wrote in post #2If all of Cruz' Republican detractors had a plan then they might have some credibility on the issue.
Personally I think the detractors have a plan. Keep their power in any way that they can, and if that happens to screw the American people, who cares? That's pretty obvious now.
Yup Otherwise they would be focusing on all the horror stories and the fact that congress exempted itself.
Quote: Sanguine wrote in post #2If all of Cruz' Republican detractors had a plan then they might have some credibility on the issue.
Personally I think the detractors have a plan. Keep their power in any way that they can, and if that happens to screw the American people, who cares? That's pretty obvious now.
Yup Otherwise they would be focusing on all the horror stories and the fact that congress exempted itself.
Yep, and that whole exemption thing is a red siren going off. When the rulers of a country begin to exempt themselves from the laws they make, that is when tyranny begins.
ZitatAnd so, referring to the members of Congress, James Madison wrote in Federalist No. 57: "[T]hey can make no law which will not have its full operation on themselves and their friends, as well as on the great mass of the society."
The founding fathers would be sounding the alarm over that one act alone -- let alone all the rest of the misbehavior Congress/Obama has been doing the past few years.
Quote: Sanguine wrote in post #2If all of Cruz' Republican detractors had a plan then they might have some credibility on the issue.
Personally I think the detractors have a plan. Keep their power in any way that they can, and if that happens to screw the American people, who cares? That's pretty obvious now.
You are quite right. I should have said "a plan to take down 0bamacare".