Pin drop! Obama lawyer stuns Supreme justice Dramatic moment at nation's highest court March 24, 2014 Greg Corombos
In a dramatic moment at the Supreme Court Tuesday, Solicitor General Donald Verrilli told justices that U.S. business owners have no religious freedom to reject government mandates forcing them to cover abortions.
Justices and lawyers also sparred over whether businesses actually have religious freedom and whether striking down the Obamacare mandate makes women second-class citizens.
The notable abortion exchange between Verrilli and Justice Anthony Kennedy came during oral arguments in Sebelius v. Hobby Lobby and Conestoga Wood Specialties v. Sebelius, two cases linked by the companies’ owners objecting to the Department of Health and Human Services requirement that businesses fully cover the contraception costs for their employees. That mandate includes coverage of abortafacient drugs, also known as the “morning-after pill.”
Before the arguments reached that stage, a robust debate took place over whether businesses actually have religious freedom or whether those are only enjoyed by individuals. Ruse said she believes most of the justices are sympathetic to the companies and their owners on that question.
“Chief Justice Roberts raised the point that corporations can actually file racial discrimination claims. So he said if a corporation can have a race, why can’t it have a religious claim? The government’s attorney didn’t really have an answer for that,” Ruse said. ....................................................
If it is decreed by a bunch of black robed tyrants that businesses have no religious freedom - then right around the next corner it will be decreed that private citizens have no religious freedom. Precedent is everything.
Quote: conservgramma wrote in post #2If it is decreed by a bunch of black robed tyrants that businesses have no religious freedom - then right around the next corner it will be decreed that private citizens have no religious freedom. Precedent is everything.
Why be surprised by the group that gave us Plessy v. Ferguson and Korematsu v. United States.
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Quote: conservgramma wrote in post #2If it is decreed by a bunch of black robed tyrants that businesses have no religious freedom - then right around the next corner it will be decreed that private citizens have no religious freedom. Precedent is everything.
Why be surprised by the group that gave us Plessy v. Ferguson and Korematsu v. United States.
Actually, I would be surprised if this group of Supremes actually upheld the Constitution. I look for them to uphold zippycare once again. The only thing I'm wondering is how much they will rewrite the 1st amendment. And then batten down the hatches because I know they'll be coming for the individual private citizen next.