I just watched the FOX news report and Geraldo said that Presidents since Bill Clinton have been doing this, that it is isn't so, we're not at the tipping point yet.
I guess we can all relax. I'm sure Geraldo will let us know when we are at the tipping point.
******************* “The Marxians love of democratic institutions was a stratagem only, a pious fraud for the deception of the masses. Within a socialist community there is no room left for freedom.” ¯ Ludwig von Mises
Quote: ThirstyMan wrote in post #2I just watched the FOX news report and Geraldo said that Presidents since Bill Clinton have been doing this, that it is isn't so, we're not at the tipping point yet.
I guess we can all relax. I'm sure Geraldo will let us know when we are at the tipping point.
Geraldo needs to get off his butt and do some research instead of spouting off.
ZitatThere are three basic ways in which Obama's behavior exceeds that of any his predecessors.
The first is that Obama is using executive orders and actions to alter his own legislation. It's one thing to claim that you are forced to act because Congress will not. It's quite another thing to re-write the law after Congress has done what you asked--and after you have offered, time and time again, to entertain formal amendments to the legislation. Obama has simply invoked executive authority to cover up his own errors. That's unprecedented.
The second way in which Obama's abuse of executive power is different is that he has done it to prevent the legislature from acting. It is now widely acknowledged that the president issued his "Dream Act by fiat" in 2012 not just because Congress wouldn't pass his version of immigration reform, but to outflank Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL), who was preparing his own version, embarrassing Obama among Latino voters. Such pettiness is rare.
The third way in which Obama's behavior is unusual is that he commands sweeping executive power on some issues while arguing, on other issues, that he has no power to act. The president's recent speech about the NSA surveillance programs is a prime example of such self-contradiction. There is no constitutional doctrine behind the president's executive orders, actions, and omissions: there is just pure, cynical political expediency.
Another point I would bring out is the term "executive order" does not appear in the Constitution. Article II simply begins, "The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America". Not order, power. Its a very different matter to order various departments etc. NOT to do something, but to use the order to amend and change the texts of laws is entirely unprecedented by any other President.
Geraldo needs to get off his butt and do some research instead of spouting off.
LOL. Research from Geraldo?
I was in Chicago when this non-event happened. What a joke!!! Capone was heard laughing from his grave!
******************* “The Marxians love of democratic institutions was a stratagem only, a pious fraud for the deception of the masses. Within a socialist community there is no room left for freedom.” ¯ Ludwig von Mises
Quote: ThirstyMan wrote in post #2I just watched the FOX news report and Geraldo said that Presidents since Bill Clinton have been doing this, that it is isn't so, we're not at the tipping point yet.
I guess we can all relax. I'm sure Geraldo will let us know when we are at the tipping point.
Geraldo needs to get off his butt and do some research instead of spouting off.
ZitatThere are three basic ways in which Obama's behavior exceeds that of any his predecessors.
The first is that Obama is using executive orders and actions to alter his own legislation. It's one thing to claim that you are forced to act because Congress will not. It's quite another thing to re-write the law after Congress has done what you asked--and after you have offered, time and time again, to entertain formal amendments to the legislation. Obama has simply invoked executive authority to cover up his own errors. That's unprecedented.
The second way in which Obama's abuse of executive power is different is that he has done it to prevent the legislature from acting. It is now widely acknowledged that the president issued his "Dream Act by fiat" in 2012 not just because Congress wouldn't pass his version of immigration reform, but to outflank Sen. Marco Rubio (R-FL), who was preparing his own version, embarrassing Obama among Latino voters. Such pettiness is rare.
The third way in which Obama's behavior is unusual is that he commands sweeping executive power on some issues while arguing, on other issues, that he has no power to act. The president's recent speech about the NSA surveillance programs is a prime example of such self-contradiction. There is no constitutional doctrine behind the president's executive orders, actions, and omissions: there is just pure, cynical political expediency.
Another point I would bring out is the term "executive order" does not appear in the Constitution. Article II simply begins, "The executive Power shall be vested in a President of the United States of America". Not order, power. Its a very different matter to order various departments etc. NOT to do something, but to use the order to amend and change the texts of laws is entirely unprecedented by any other President.
@conservgramma A very thoughtful reply CG. Thank you!!! In the future please give me an @ ThirstyMan when you spend so much time on a reply. I darn near missed it!!!
******************* “The Marxians love of democratic institutions was a stratagem only, a pious fraud for the deception of the masses. Within a socialist community there is no room left for freedom.” ¯ Ludwig von Mises