Quote: Cincinnatus wrote in post #1

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Yes, I know everyone has heard about this, but strangely no one has mentioned on here, nor is it apparently of much interest to the news media. The FBI shoots and kills one of the Malheur occupiers and the whole thing is met with a yawn. Weird.

Here is a shortened video of the incident.

Just some observations:

(1) This was obviously an ambush. The authorities knew the occupiers were headed up federal highway 395 to go to John Day, OR, for a scheduled meeting. The roadblock was set up in a secluded area on a lightly traveled highway. Only local uses that road as I-84 is just east of 395. Yes, I know the area. Some have speculated the occupiers have a "safe conduct" with the feds as they had already made this trip before unmolested. The sheriff in the county they were going to visit was known to be a sympathizer with their cause

(2) The only gunfire which took place was by the feds supposedly in conjunction with OR state troopers.

(3) The occupiers had a perfect right to carry weapons in their vehicles. They did not use or brandish them.

(4) LaVoy Finicum was spokesman for the occupiers and was a rancher from out of AZ where he had had ongoing battles of his own with federal agencies. He was an outspoken militant. Why do I bring that up? Because it was speculated that at Ruby Ridge FBI profiling concluded Vicki Weaver was the backbone of that family and for that reason she was taken out. Was the same assessment applied to LaVoy?

(5) The feds began a propaganda campaign against the occupiers a short time ago, so much so that LaVoy predicted something was being planned. http://www.thenewscommenter.com/news/lav...-the-fbi/470098

(6) Claims are being made that LaVoy was charging the LEOs and seemed to be reaching for a weapon in his waist band when fatally shot. However, the video clearly shows he exited the vehicle with his arms up, and no officer was near him as he tried to maneuver through the heavy snow. As for the supposed gun there is speculation he had already been shot in the stomach and was reaching down to the wound. It is also claimed he was right handed so any gun he had on his hip would have been in a holster on the opposite side of his body.

(7) It has been pointed out that major weaponry was applied against the occupiers for what is a trivial charge, "federal felony charges of conspiracy to impede officers of the United States from discharging their official duties, through the use of force, intimidation or threats" (which apparently carries with it a sentence of capital punishment), yet little or nothing was done to deal with the rioters in Ferguson or Baltimore. Now to be fair the situations in those two instances did not apparently involve federal issues (maybe), but this is illustrative of a bizarre double standard when dealing with civil disorder.

(8) Remember Waco and Ruby Ridge.

(9) RIP LaVoy.

Ok, I'm done.

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Quote: ThirstyMan wrote in post #3

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It sure looks like a man was murdered with his hands up in the air.

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"yet little or nothing was done to deal with the rioters in Ferguson or Baltimore. "

I has occurred to me that disparity may be at least partly attributed to the acceptance or rejection of being pushed onto Uncle Sam's Plantation.

The rioters willingly accepted their role as proles, dependents upon big government; therefore they were allowed room to destroy as an expression of their perceived frustrations.

LaVoy had the nerve to be an independent responsible human being who actively resisted control by big government's minions.

Oregon stand-off militiaman killed in shootout with the FBI: ...............................

Here are two analyses of the video.

From the oathkeepers:
https://www.oathkeepers.org/video-of-lav...death-released/

From Infowars David Knight:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWXBITTC4fw