"Those changes require a new heart. It is a heart issue more than a cultural issue and they aren't going to happen without some sort of revival first."

Completely agree, Conservgramma, and I fear any revival will only occur when, as repeatedly happened in Judges, we suffer some serious setbacks, either military or economic, probably the latter.

Quote: ThirstyMan wrote in post #17

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Quote: Cincinnatus wrote in post #16

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"Those changes require a new heart. It is a heart issue more than a cultural issue and they aren't going to happen without some sort of revival first."

Completely agree, Conservgramma, and I fear any revival will only occur when, as repeatedly happened in Judges, we suffer some serious setbacks, either military or economic, probably the latter.

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and sadly, I feel that's a realistic fear Cincinnatus.

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